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Undine Wells ([personal profile] treadwater) wrote in [community profile] sail_ooc2022-08-23 05:13 pm
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5 Things to 5 People Meme

FIVE THINGS



The Rules:
1. Post with your characters name/canon and write 5 IC things about/to 5 peeps, don't say who they are for!
1.5. If you have more people to write things to, feel free.
2. Go around and yell at/talk with/interrogate other peeps.
3. Potentially guess that jerk is talking about you, wtf.
4. Profit???
skaikru: (pic#11470422)

watch me copypaste this meme thread into future game canon arguments

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-27 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
( BIG OL HEAVING SIGH. and not quite an eyeroll, but def looking up to the heavens for divine inspiration/patience/guidance only to find the sky lacking and looking back at pal with a cool, even (cracked) mask. )

I did try. You and I were first ones in the car, but I still waited. For all of them, for everyone who came out with us. Those are the people I was responsible for getting back to the ship, because they're the ones I dragged out there in the first place.

Turning back to look for stranded survivors would have been heroic, sure. And suicidal.
hellonspectacles: (Go loud)

same same same

[personal profile] hellonspectacles 2022-08-27 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
We had a car! It was warded! The risk was reasonable. Given that, the responsibility we had to protect people who were stranded went far beyond your definition.
skaikru: (pic#8799137)

it's our rough draft

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-27 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
And warded or not, it's still just a car! Twenty or forty of those things climbing all over it trying to get in, and we would have stalled. Or we could have blown a tire and just been stranded while the whole desert collapsed.

If there'd been some sort of signal flare, maybe it would have been different. But it wasn't worth the risk, Pal. Not on the off chance of someone, somewhere, maybe needing help.
hellonspectacles: (How God takes and takes)

[personal profile] hellonspectacles 2022-08-27 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
[ok ok, fine, Pal doesn’t know a lot about cars, so maybe that’s a good point, but still—]

I asked for five minutes. A single sweep of the area between the rover and the cliff, under the reasonable assumption that there were still people out there. Not some thoughtless mission where we hang around indefinitely and hope survivors find us.

And yet here you are, conflating the two.
skaikru: (pic#11782187)

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-28 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Five minutes would have been plenty of time to lose someone already on board.

( maybe not in the rover, hanging off the side of the rover, sticking out the top sunroof of the rover... )

And more than enough time for anyone stranded to be torn apart. We helped the guy with the wings when he couldn't fly anymore — and still almost lost him, and Darcy, and the blond guy to the zombies. Is that not enough for you?
hellonspectacles: (Indubitable)

[personal profile] hellonspectacles 2022-08-28 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
And perhaps that little daisy chain from hell wouldn't have been so nearly a disaster if we had been more purposeful about collecting survivors. [Deep sigh] For God's sake, it isn't about what's enough for me. It's about the most reasonable course of action.

[Yup. Sure. Totally about being rational. No gross savior complex feelings here, nosiree]
skaikru: (pic#8799178)

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-28 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
But you're not being reasonable. You were asking me to risk the lives of nine people — nine — on the off chance of maybe saving one. And that's noble, admirable even. Right until the point it gets someone killed who otherwise should have made it home.

( hello and welcome, ladies and gentlemen: we're reached the trolley problem portion of this ethics debate. )

You don't get to vote without arguement for Skulduggery to die to save all of us, and yell at me for going by the same metric a few hours later, Pal. Pick one side of the arguement.
hellonspectacles: (resting bitch face)

[personal profile] hellonspectacles 2022-08-29 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, come on, Clarke. You sound like a junior scholar who just took his first ethics course and wants to debate Cohort allotments with me. Real life isn’t some simple philosophical equation. The two circumstances were wildly different; frankly, the only thing they had in common was that you were wrong in both instances.

[tl;dr, the trolley problem is dumb and has no bearing on reality. So There.]
skaikru: (pic#11782162)

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-29 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
( not an inaccurate description, it wasn't like morality was taught alongside earth skills. the 102 had been thrown into the pits of a do-or-die situation and figured out what they could for themselves. sometimes clarke can spin a pretty, galvanizing speech but more often than not she'd been left with the remnants of a decision in both hands and had to justify it after the fact.

a visible wince goes here, followed by a looking up and far to his left; deep breath, reup the composure. )


I'm sorry I disappointed you, Pal. And for putting you in danger by putting us out there in the first place. ( genuinely. but carrying right along — ) What I won't apologize for is making what I thought to be the best decision in order to get Natsuno, Jade, Rita, Darcy and the others before they jumped ship, and you back here alive.
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[personal profile] hellonspectacles 2022-08-30 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
[nods, sighs, runs his hand over his face] And I'm sorry I disappointed you. But I won't apologize for making my own assessment and coming to a different conclusion, either.

[A beat]

Wait one moment. You didn't put us in danger, Clarke. We all wanted to be there, and none of us would have gotten out alive without your rover.
skaikru: (pic#8798421)

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-30 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
( these are stilted, half apologies. neither necessarily promising to do any different in the others eyes in future life or death events, but some level of acknowledgement for the others priority. agree to disagree until the disagreements boil over again.

until then, dryly: )


And half of you wouldn't have been out there in the first place without my Rover either. It'd have been so much easier to get back to the portal if everyone'd just stayed in the parking lot.
hellonspectacles: (Default)

[personal profile] hellonspectacles 2022-08-31 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. If we had been able to predict the future, then I like to think we would have stayed in the parking lot. But we couldn't, and none of us were going to let Skulduggery go out there with the Captain alone.

We're a stubborn lot. We would have found a way even without the rover. [His expression softening as he looks at her.] But we needed you to get us back.
skaikru: (pic#11470427)

[personal profile] skaikru 2022-08-31 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
( what is this emotional flip flop between criticizing her actions but praising her involvement? only one lines up with the generous, regular helping of self deprecation in light of jeopardizing and hurting the friends she'd dragged along the way clarke's been stewing over. add to it or walk away, pal, don't look at her softly and try to halve the portion!!! it's confusing.

she... squints. just a little. )


Well... any time. If the Rover's still running next time we see it.

( any time r e g a r d l e s s )