It's not the Ozarks Nobunaga has a problem with. Not at all. It's why he thought it was like himself! Owari was the least desirable location of all of Japan. Barren, crossroads, chronically underestimated, and doomed by being surrounded by bigger wealthier daimyo.
Youngest elder vampire.
Nobunaga has a soft smile at that, and debates emptying the Tanegashima, but instead, merely keeps it handy, carefully moving to try to see what he can do about making garlic bread on his own before remembering -- "I know garlic doesn't affect you, I'm making this for my partner. I was going to ask Max's help. Just know I'm not doing this to be antagonistic. It's Klaus' favorite."
Let's see, to make the compound butter, he need garlic (obviously), the sage, etc. Nobunaga never completely removes a hand from his gun as he cautiously moves about getting the ingredients.
It's a complicated question, and doesn't deserve to be ignored, but too complicated of an answer was more wasteful than Nobunaga was willing to engage in immediately.
"What did you have to do to gain your position? Not as a vampire, but as Lord I mean." Carefully, Nobunaga slices the bread, one-handed, eyes on Erik, but almost giving away how much love he's putting into his actions. He's copying Max, and then using his own overwhelming affection for Klaus, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of it.
"It's wasteful, because..." the red eyes narrow on the vampire. His size reminds him of 5 now. The time traveling assassin stuck in his teenage body. Slowly and carefully with voice, very carefully choosing each word. "I know you know humans could give you more power if you would only utilize them. Do you think you're protecting them, or do you truly fear them more than the other vampires?" He tilts his head. Obviously, Oda doesn't think that he's wrong.
Finally, finally Nobunaga lifts his hand off the gun and holds it up to show the vampire. Both hands are off the gun, now, see? "I've agonized over this. How Max's words, his praise," a slight contemptuous bite to that, because Nobunaga knows better than to trust words, or people, only motivations, and Valdis herself pointed out that Max's motivation was appeasing, even pleasing others, but for so long, Nobunaga couldn't match everything up. Praise from a servant means everything to Nobunaga. If the Emperor praised you, you were an idiot to value it, if you praised the Emperor when you could gain nothing from it? He was more worthwhile than he knew. "Doesn't match up to what I saw in person. He's not capable of lying to me, only to himself. Klaus seemed to think you think of humans as weak, but no, clearly not with Maximum." Ugh weird to still call him that.
Nobunaga tilts his head again, thinking it over, and leans his chin into his hand, elbow on the counter. So much he can't put into words!
The youngest thing doesn't particularly speak to Nobunaga the same, because Nobunaga made others the youngest or first or only of their kind. Ranmaru was the youngest to ever own a castle and fiefdom. The first to ever break the rules about not being allowed to be his page after their young teens. Yasuke was the first African, first foreign samurai, given swords and land as well. Surely Erik himself knew how many it times it happened in human history, and while that hardly had the gravity of elder vampires with their longer lifespans, it's all the more reason it irks Nobunaga. If the vampires are worse than humans at adapting, at changing, at being stronger in their techniques? Then it would take a truly ambitious, and the strongest vampire of all time, to change it around them without asking for their permission or waiting for them to learn better. While he's not disappointed that's not Erik's aim, he does think it's still so very far to go.
Red eyes just gaze on Erik as if he can see every ounce of him, 'soul' and lack thereof and measure it on an internal Hell's scales of justice.
"I think if you grew your ambition, you could do more than you already have. Much more. And you wouldn't be wasting Max." That's probably far FAR too forward, it's CERTAINLY too revealing for Nobunaga to say, but this is his exact point. Perhaps, it's because he's not a vampire, and that's why. He's a Demon King, however metaphorical that title is, it's specifically because Nobunaga's specialty is seeing the barriers that prevent people from reaching their highest potential, and more importantly, how to utterly destroy them.
Is it because Oichi was a sweet princess almost a daughter given her age difference and how young Nobunaga had to become lord? Vs. Erik's twin sister who preyed on humans, the opposite of Oichi who wanted to save Nobunaga's (nonexistent, or very frayed) soul. Is it because Nobunaga didn't want to be lord, he wanted to be free, and the only way to do that was to free everyone else? Is it because Hideyoshi, Ieyasu, Masamune, and Mitsuhide always kept Nobunaga on track? No. The only reason they allied with him so stubbornly, helped him so greatly was the same reason Nobunaga is trying to stress this to the vampire. It's because of Nobunaga's grand ambition, unlike anything the world had seen, willing to do anything to achieve it, that the others signed up for it.
"Even in chess, you must know when to accept losses, Lord Osbourne." He's using the title now, and meaning it, because it was earned, hard fought for. But still not enough yet. No one in all of time or even alternate universes could ever say Nobunaga wasted Hideyoshi or Ieyasu's potential. No one else could have brought them 1/100000th as far as Nobunaga did. "No piece is irreplaceable." That headtilt again, even leaning on a fist. "But if don't aim even beyond the king-" The player. Nobunaga never aimed for the King, it was just one more piece. His head never lost sight of the real enemy. In war, beyond Kennyo the monk, beyond the shogun Yoshiaki, beyond even the Emperor, beyond gods, and whether they're real or not; Nobunaga was the fearless ruthless commander who would defy reality and fight wormholes and change humanity's destiny to how he wanted it. "You'll just wind up being a piece in someone else's game board."
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It's not the Ozarks Nobunaga has a problem with. Not at all. It's why he thought it was like himself! Owari was the least desirable location of all of Japan. Barren, crossroads, chronically underestimated, and doomed by being surrounded by bigger wealthier daimyo.
Youngest elder vampire.
Nobunaga has a soft smile at that, and debates emptying the Tanegashima, but instead, merely keeps it handy, carefully moving to try to see what he can do about making garlic bread on his own before remembering -- "I know garlic doesn't affect you, I'm making this for my partner. I was going to ask Max's help. Just know I'm not doing this to be antagonistic. It's Klaus' favorite."
Let's see, to make the compound butter, he need garlic (obviously), the sage, etc. Nobunaga never completely removes a hand from his gun as he cautiously moves about getting the ingredients.
It's a complicated question, and doesn't deserve to be ignored, but too complicated of an answer was more wasteful than Nobunaga was willing to engage in immediately.
"What did you have to do to gain your position? Not as a vampire, but as Lord I mean." Carefully, Nobunaga slices the bread, one-handed, eyes on Erik, but almost giving away how much love he's putting into his actions. He's copying Max, and then using his own overwhelming affection for Klaus, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks of it.
"It's wasteful, because..." the red eyes narrow on the vampire. His size reminds him of 5 now. The time traveling assassin stuck in his teenage body. Slowly and carefully with voice, very carefully choosing each word. "I know you know humans could give you more power if you would only utilize them. Do you think you're protecting them, or do you truly fear them more than the other vampires?" He tilts his head. Obviously, Oda doesn't think that he's wrong.
Finally, finally Nobunaga lifts his hand off the gun and holds it up to show the vampire. Both hands are off the gun, now, see? "I've agonized over this. How Max's words, his praise," a slight contemptuous bite to that, because Nobunaga knows better than to trust words, or people, only motivations, and Valdis herself pointed out that Max's motivation was appeasing, even pleasing others, but for so long, Nobunaga couldn't match everything up. Praise from a servant means everything to Nobunaga. If the Emperor praised you, you were an idiot to value it, if you praised the Emperor when you could gain nothing from it? He was more worthwhile than he knew. "Doesn't match up to what I saw in person. He's not capable of lying to me, only to himself. Klaus seemed to think you think of humans as weak, but no, clearly not with Maximum." Ugh weird to still call him that.
Nobunaga tilts his head again, thinking it over, and leans his chin into his hand, elbow on the counter. So much he can't put into words!
The youngest thing doesn't particularly speak to Nobunaga the same, because Nobunaga made others the youngest or first or only of their kind. Ranmaru was the youngest to ever own a castle and fiefdom. The first to ever break the rules about not being allowed to be his page after their young teens. Yasuke was the first African, first foreign samurai, given swords and land as well. Surely Erik himself knew how many it times it happened in human history, and while that hardly had the gravity of elder vampires with their longer lifespans, it's all the more reason it irks Nobunaga. If the vampires are worse than humans at adapting, at changing, at being stronger in their techniques? Then it would take a truly ambitious, and the strongest vampire of all time, to change it around them without asking for their permission or waiting for them to learn better. While he's not disappointed that's not Erik's aim, he does think it's still so very far to go.
Red eyes just gaze on Erik as if he can see every ounce of him, 'soul' and lack thereof and measure it on an internal Hell's scales of justice.
"I think if you grew your ambition, you could do more than you already have. Much more. And you wouldn't be wasting Max." That's probably far FAR too forward, it's CERTAINLY too revealing for Nobunaga to say, but this is his exact point. Perhaps, it's because he's not a vampire, and that's why. He's a Demon King, however metaphorical that title is, it's specifically because Nobunaga's specialty is seeing the barriers that prevent people from reaching their highest potential, and more importantly, how to utterly destroy them.
Is it because Oichi was a sweet princess almost a daughter given her age difference and how young Nobunaga had to become lord? Vs. Erik's twin sister who preyed on humans, the opposite of Oichi who wanted to save Nobunaga's (nonexistent, or very frayed) soul. Is it because Nobunaga didn't want to be lord, he wanted to be free, and the only way to do that was to free everyone else? Is it because Hideyoshi, Ieyasu, Masamune, and Mitsuhide always kept Nobunaga on track? No. The only reason they allied with him so stubbornly, helped him so greatly was the same reason Nobunaga is trying to stress this to the vampire. It's because of Nobunaga's grand ambition, unlike anything the world had seen, willing to do anything to achieve it, that the others signed up for it.
"Even in chess, you must know when to accept losses, Lord Osbourne." He's using the title now, and meaning it, because it was earned, hard fought for. But still not enough yet. No one in all of time or even alternate universes could ever say Nobunaga wasted Hideyoshi or Ieyasu's potential. No one else could have brought them 1/100000th as far as Nobunaga did. "No piece is irreplaceable." That headtilt again, even leaning on a fist. "But if don't aim even beyond the king-" The player. Nobunaga never aimed for the King, it was just one more piece. His head never lost sight of the real enemy. In war, beyond Kennyo the monk, beyond the shogun Yoshiaki, beyond even the Emperor, beyond gods, and whether they're real or not; Nobunaga was the fearless ruthless commander who would defy reality and fight wormholes and change humanity's destiny to how he wanted it. "You'll just wind up being a piece in someone else's game board."